An editorial that I agree with
A Pilot's Editorial' "You Worry Me."
I've been trying to say this since 9-11. I guess I will be labeled as a bigoted American...
By: American Airlines Pilot - Captain John Maniscalco
'You worry me. I wish you didn't. I wish when I walked down the streets of this country that I love, that your color and culture still blended with the beautiful human landscape we enjoy in this country. But you don't blend in anymore. I notice you, and it worries me. I notice you because I can't help it anymore. People from your homelands, professing to be Muslims, have been attacking and killing my fellow citizens and our friends for more than 20 years now. I don't fully understand their grievances and hate but I know that nothing can justify the inhumanity of their attacks.
On September 11, 2001, nineteen ARAB-MUSLIMS hijacked four jetliners in my country. They cut the throats of women in front of children and brutally stabbed to death others. They took control of those planes and crashed them into buildings killing thousands of proud fathers, loving sons, wise grandparents, elegant daughters, best friends, favorite coaches, fearless public servants, and children's mothers.
So I notice you now. I don't want to be worried. I don't want to be consumed by the same rage and hate and prejudice that has destroyed the soul of these terrorists. But I need your help. As a rational American, trying to protect my country and family in an irrational and unsafe world, I must know how to tell the difference between you, and the Arab/Muslim terrorists.
How do I differentiate between the true Arab-Muslim-Americans and the Arab-Muslims in our communities who are attending our schools, enjoying our parks, and living in OUR communities under the protection of OUR constitution, while they plot the next attack that will slaughter those very same good neighbors and children? The events of September 11th changed the answer. It is not my responsibility to determine which of you embraces our great country, with ALL of its religions, with ALL of its different citizens, with all of it's faults. It is time for every Arab-Muslim in this country to determine it for me.
I want to know, I demand to know, and I have a right to know whether or not you love America. Do you pledge allegiance to its flag? Do you proudly display in front of your house, or on your car? Do you pray in your many daily prayers that Allah will bless this nation, that He will protect it and bless it with prosperity?
Or do you pray that Allah with destroy it in one of your 'Jihad's? Are you thankful for the freedom that only this nation affords? A freedom that was paid for by the blood of hundreds of thousands of patriots who gave their lives for this country? Are you willing to preserve this freedom by paying the ultimate sacrifice? Do you love America? If this is your commitment, then I need YOU to start letting ME know about it.
Your Muslim leaders in this nation should be flooding the media
at this time with hard facts on your faith, and what hard actions you are taking as a community and as a religion to protect the United States of America. Please, no more benign overtures of regret for the death of the innocent because I worry about who you regard as innocent. And no more benign overtures of condemnation for the unprovoked attacks because I worry about what is unprovoked to you. I am not interested in any more sympathy...I am only interested in action. What will you do for America 'our great country' at this time of crisis, at this time of war?
I want to see Arab-Muslims waving the AMERICAN flag in the streets. I want to hear you chanting 'Allah Bless America'. I want to see young Arab-Muslim men enlisting in the military. I want to see a commitment of money, time, and emotion to the victims of this butchering and to this nation as a whole.
The FBI has a list of over 400 people they want to talk to regarding the WTC attack. Many of these people live and socialize in Muslim communities.
You know them. You know where they are. Hand them over to us, now!
But I have seen little even approaching this sort of action. Instead I have seen an already closed and secretive community close even tighter. You have disappeared from the streets. You have posted armed security guards at your facilities. You have threatened lawsuits. You have screamed for protection from reprisals.
The very few Arab-Muslim representatives that HAVE appeared in the media were defensive and equivocating. They seemed more concerned with making sure that the United States prove who was responsible before taking action. They seemed more concerned with protecting their fellow Muslims from violence directed towards them in the United States and abroad than they did with supporting our country and denouncing 'leaders' like Khadafi, Hussein, Farrakhan, and Arafat. If the true teachings of Islam proclaim tolerance and peace and love for all people then I want chapter and verse from the Koran and statements from popular Muslim leaders to back it up. What good is it if the teachings in the Koran are good and pure and true when your 'leaders' are teaching fanatical interpretations, terrorism, and intolerance.
It matters little how good Islam SHOULD BE if large numbers of the world's Muslims interpret the teachings of Mohammed incorrectly and adhere to a degenerative form of the religion. A form that has been demonstrated to us over and over again. A form whose structure is built upon a foundation of violence, death, and suicide. A form whose members are recruited from the prisons around the world. A form whose members defended Johnny Cochran and O. J. Simpson after the latter butchered his wife and murdered an innocent friend. A form whose members (some as young as five years old) are seen day after day, week in and week out, year after year, marching in the streets around the world, burning effigies of our presidents, burning the American flag, shooting weapons into the air. A form whose members convert from a peaceful religion, only to take up arms against the great United States of America, the country of their birth. A form whose rules are so twisted, that their traveling members refuse to show their faces at airport security checkpoints, in the name of Islam.
Do you and your fellow Muslims hate us because our women proudly show their faces in public rather than cover up like a shameful @#%$?
Do you and your fellow Muslims hate us because we drink wine with dinner, or celebrate Christmas? Do you and you fellow Muslims hate us because we have befriended Israel, the ONLY civilized democratic nation in the entire middle-east? And if you and your fellow Muslims hate us, then why in the world are you even here?
Are you here to take our money? Are you here to undermine our peace and stability? Are you here to destroy us? If so, I want you to leave. I want you to go back to your desert sandpit where women are treated like rats and dogs. I want you to take your religion, your friends, and your family back to your Islamic extremists, and STAY THERE!
We will NEVER give in to your influence, your retarded mentality, your twisted, violent, intolerant religion. We will NEVER allow the attacks of September 11, or any others for that matter, to take away that which is so precious to us: Our rights under the greatest constitution in the world.
I want to know where every Arab-Muslim in this country stands and I think it is my right and the right of every true citizen of this country to demand it. A right paid for by the blood of thousands of my brothers and sisters who died protecting the very constitution that is protecting you and your family. I am pleading with you to let me know. I want you here as my brother, my neighbor, my friend; as a fellow American. But there can be no gray areas or ambivalence regarding your allegiance and it is up to YOU, to show ME, where YOU stand.
Until then ... you worry me."
~The greatest test of courage on earth is to bear defeat without losing heart.~
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yaali110
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(8/15/02 2:11 pm) Reply
correction
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By the way,
the iraqi children say the same thing to American government.
The middle-easterns too, vowed to israel that their wont be any injustice tolerated.
Correction: The people who carried out the 9/11 attacks were from Afghanistan; absolutely not Arabic. You may confuse them with arabs, but a hard fact... the Afghanis are not arabs, not even their language is arabi. They share very different culture and background. Ganges Khan and halaku khan...the afghhans date back to them.
And Talibans, even different from afghans.
We should not limit ourselves to arab-muslims...just visit a middle-eastern country....and we will see that not only muslims but every single person hates the Israel and the usa or ones who support israel. No matter christian or muslim, they all fel the same way towards israel and her allies.
In my opinion:
Ariel Sharon is a terrorist.
Osama bin Laden is terrorist.
and whosoever supports bin Laden is a terrorist and idiot. And whosoever supports Ariel Sharon is a terrorist and an idiot.
Quote: the iraqi children say the same thing to American government.
American children aren't taught by the government to hate other nationalities, like Muslim children are.
Quote: The middle-easterns too, vowed to israel that their wont be any injustice tolerated.
If the Muslims would stop killing innocent people, then Israel wouldn't have to continue to defend itself. That defense involves going after the terroristic Palestinian Muslims who hide behind women and children like cowards. All that innocent blood shed is on the hands of Muslims. Especially Arafat.
Quote: Correction: The people who carried out the 9/11 attacks were from Afghanistan; absolutely not Arabic. You may confuse them with arabs, but a hard fact... the Afghanis are not arabs, not even their language is arabi. They share very different culture and background. Ganges Khan and halaku khan...the afghhans date back to them.
And Talibans, even different from afghans.
A Muslim by any other name is still a Muslim.
Quote: We should not limit ourselves to arab-muslims...just visit a middle-eastern country....and we will see that not only muslims but every single person hates the Israel and the usa or ones who support israel. No matter christian or muslim, they all fel the same way towards israel and her allies.
That doesn't make them right, nor does it give them the right to kill innocent women and children. Nothing you say will ever justify killing innocent people.
And, Israel didn't start it, so don't try that lie.
Quote: In my opinion:
Ariel Sharon is a terrorist.
Osama bin Laden is terrorist.
and whosoever supports bin Laden is a terrorist and idiot. And whosoever supports Ariel Sharon is a terrorist and an idiot.
Ariel Sharon is a leader trying to protect his people from Muslim terrorists led by Arafat. That is not the definition of a terrorist.
Osama is in for a really bad after-life. But, that is his choice since we all have free will.
Whoever supports Osama will share his fate.
hoever supports Sharon is on the side of freedom.
You are biased by your evil religion.
God is a God of love, and Jesus preached love and forgiveness.
Why don't Muslims forgive Israelis if they feel wronged?
Because they are not interested in peace. They want to kill every Israeli on this planet.
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yaali110
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(9/2/02 11:04 pm) Reply
yea ?????
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Hi !
Muslim children are not taught. you are biased I believe or it appears like that. What happened in South Lebanon, in Palestine ? Does anyone haas to be taught to hate the people responsible for those massacres ?
America attacked Iraq and there starts a war. Now, AMerica is right for only HERSELF and Iraq HERSELF.
Enemies of America...every ally of america or atleast Many of them will hate and the Enemies of Iraq, every firend of Iraq will hate.
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A Muslim by any other name is still a Muslim.
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Brother read my post please. I corrected you that they are not Arabs. I didnt mention muslims. The Afghani people are not Arabs, this was the correction that I made.
Let us be very clear on the issue about Israel.
I am surprised that you live in a fantasy world that israel is so Innocent and Ariel sharon is "just" protecting his people. FYI: Ariel Sharon was help and proven responsible for the massacre in Qina nad south Lebanon, by his own government. Ariel Sharon was called back from the mission for his ill-reputition was setting the european countries on fire. Ariel Sharon is a devil in disguise. What you think about israeli people being killed by palestinians, I feel the same way about innocent palestinians being killed by israelis.
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You are biased by your evil religion.
God is a God of love, and Jesus preached love and forgiveness.
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Jesus preached Love only ? No! Lie. Thats another discussion. And bro, I have noticed that in almost every post you say evil of islam. Maybe your religion teaches that. Or maybe its just the way you are. But please try not to use such words.
Quote: Muslim children are not taught. you are biased I believe or it appears like that. What happened in South Lebanon, in Palestine ? Does anyone haas to be taught to hate the people responsible for those massacres ?
I am biased only in the fact that I believe in the Christian God, and that He sent His Son, Jesus, to save us from sin and death.
In South Lebanon and Palestine, the MUSLIMS continue to attach bombs to their brothers and sisters and little children and send them to kill the INNOCENT Israelis.
Quote: America attacked Iraq and there starts a war. Now, AMerica is right for only HERSELF and Iraq HERSELF.
Iraq attacked its neighboring country Kuwait, and we were asked to help the Kuwaitis. We did.
And yet Iraq continues to stockpile weapons of mass destruction to try to destroy the Israeli nation and our USA.
Quote: I corrected you that they are not Arabs
No, you did not correct me, you are simply trying to deny the truth. I do not accept your lies.
Quote: Let us be very clear on the issue about Israel.
Yes, let's be clear. You are lying about them being the aggressor. You are a typical Arab/Muslim, lying to make it appear that you are innocent. I do not believe your words. You are lying.
Quote: Jesus preached Love only ? No! Lie.
You are condemned by your own words.
God never changes. He and Jesus are one, and thus what Jesus said will also never change.
Love thy enemies. Turn the other cheek.
Forgive thy brother 70 times 7 if necessary.
That is the truth, God's Word. Islam teaches something else and thus is evil.
No, you did not correct me, you are simply trying to deny the truth. I do not accept your lies.
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You make me laugh. Why are you trying to close your eyes to the biggest fact ? Okay, here is the solution: READ my post where I said that the Sep 11th terrorists are NOT arabs. Do you see? I did NOT say they are NOT muslims, I said they are NOT arabs. Thank you very much.
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In South Lebanon and Palestine, the MUSLIMS continue to attach bombs to their brothers and sisters and little children and send them to kill the INNOCENT Israelis.
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Ironically, not even the CNN and BBC agree with this statement. Palestine is one in dilemma. The South Lebanon ? What are u talking about? I said that massacre happened in the past in South Lebanon in the past...about 20 years ago. Everyone including the USA and many Israelis condemned that. The proof is on BBC. I have posted that website earlier, u can recheck. Where is ur proof that in South Lebanon people are still carrying out suicidal missions to kill israelis ??
Re: Iraq vs USA; yeah, USA had an excuse to attack Iraq last time ? that was Kuwait. What now?
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Yes, let's be clear. You are lying about them being the aggressor. You are a typical Arab/Muslim, lying to make it appear that you are innocent. I do not believe your words. You are lying.
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Maybe, it's that way now! To you me, and to me you are a liar. But, I believe one thing that killing ANY INNOCENT is "7aram" (forbidden) and whosoever does that is bad, sinner and hateful... muslim, christian or any person.
Regarding Islam's teachings are diifferent from Bible...The code of conduct has changed. Allah (God) I know, is still the same. Just the teachings. Every nation has her Prophet. Why would Allah introduce Christianity after Judaism ? Answer is that cuz, it was inevitable to give people a new code according to which they would revise their lifestyles and conduct. That pretty much explains the necessity of Islam, as well.
Any other questions are welcomed. Thanks for listening.
Quote: You make me laugh. Why are you trying to close your eyes to the biggest fact ? Okay, here is the solution: READ my post where I said that the Sep 11th terrorists are NOT arabs. Do you see? I did NOT say they are NOT muslims, I said they are NOT arabs. Thank you very much.
All 19 Muslim terrorists were from Saudi Arabia. They all had Arab names, they had Arab families, most of those Arab families are upper class Arabs with busineses and nice homes.
That was on a news show 2 weeks ago.
Quote: But, I believe one thing that killing ANY INNOCENT is "7aram" (forbidden) and whosoever does that is bad, sinner and hateful... muslim, christian or any person.
Make up your mind!
I saw a post from you saying it's okay for a Muslim to kill, but now you say not to kill innocents? Are you saying all those people who were killed on 9-11-01 by MUSLIM terrorists were not innocent?
Quote: Regarding Islam's teachings are diifferent from Bible...The code of conduct has changed. Allah (God) I know, is still the same. Just the teachings.
Who changed the code of conduct?
Since you acknowledge God/Allah is the same, then who changed the code of conduct, which is something God gave us?
Who decided that the Word of God/Allah - the code of conduct - needed to be changed?
Quote: Every nation has her Prophet
Only God and Jesus are relevant. There are too many false prophets, I only rely on the Word of God, and the Words of Jesus as recorded in the Bible.
Prove that your mohammed was a prophet.
My proof that Jesus is the Son of God, is that He came back from the dead. There were witnesses that saw Him, saw His wounds, and they recorded their eyewitness accounts in the Bible. Jesus conquered death.
"Imagination is more important than knowledge. Knowledge is limited. Imagination encircles the world."
Albert Einstein
yaali110
Unregistered User
(10/1/02 3:17 pm) Reply
innocent
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Hi!
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I saw a post from you saying it's okay for a Muslim to kill, but now you say not to kill innocents?
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Can you tell me where did I say that ? I never said that its ok to kill innocents, or even those who dont kill you (intentions).
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Who changed the code of conduct?
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No one but God can. He is the only all-knowing.
The revolutions come with the process of time. The title changes with every new story. God does not change something unless its inevitable.
Yeah! I know there have been many false prophets.
Well! you say Jesus (a.s)'s words are recorded in Bible. Do you know or believe or think or accept that over the period of time, bible has been modified from its original version. Why I ask so is because I often wonder that why there are so many editions of Bible. And they are different too. Which bible is regarded as the most authentic?
Thank you for your reply.
Regards,
Asad Ali.
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(10/4/02 11:51 am) Reply
patriotism
I totally disagree with the whole of the topic post. I find no reconciliation between Jesus' & the Apostle's teachigns and the modern teaching of Patriotism. They are totally contradictory, and should never be regarded as able to co-exist.
As for the idea that the US does not teach its children to hate other countries...then what do you say about teaching your children to love your country over anything, and be patriotic, regardless of what the facts are?
I know that there are tons of crimes done by the US, and the public stands behind their government, no matter what. This I believe is as much wrong as simply telling your people that others are evil.
I do not carry a flag sticker on my car, I do not have a flag hanging from my garage, and I do not stand up, and hold my hand across-my-heart to pledge alliagence to anyone but God. Give unto Caesar what is Caesar's, and give unto God what is (only) God's.
I might be obedient to the government, as long as their commands do not contradict God's commands.
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