Matthew 19:14 -- "Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for such is the kingdom of heaven."

Clearly this was trying to show that Christ was saying, let the kids come to me too, and he was trying to show this was a stance that a child should be baptised, if he comes to Christ.

Why Mr. Spurgeon failed to see how it had to do with the subject at hand I dunno... >? My question would have been... so then Jesus took them and baptized them right away, and it makes that clear He did so, in the word? Which then I'm sure he would come back with... well the hebrews "cut" infants, infact in eight days from birth and it would have gone on from there...

Job 1:1 -- "There was a man in the land of Uz, whose name was Job."

I would have to say that Mr. Spurgeon was having a bit of fun... saying "without explanation of your view I have no idea what Matthew 19:14 has to do with the subject at hand..." sometimes I post verses myself without (A explanation.) taking it for granted others know I am taking it as face value... for what it says, without considering they might read it different then my face value. As for backing up the word, with the word, I think this is the meaning of dividing the word of God rightly... lol... see even on that verse, one view means one thing to one, and something to another... as for the Calvins vs Arminians debates... I don't myself know the Arminians or Calvins has a whole... but do know there are many different degrees of each, myself... as far as brotherhood, stand with both sides if they be in Christ... but don't think as a whole, I agree with either side.

To me... I believe that all are born into sin, and all have the chance for salvation... God by knowing the ending of each mans free will, declared the ones that chose light over darkness, to be His Election... "choice" and the others damned, without excuse. For what i understand the Arminians don't enclude all under sin... but like I say... haven't read there doctrine much bro... like I tell the mormons... I haven't finished the JW's doctrines... lol I don't myself think I could stand with any of their doctrines as a whole.