yaali110
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(9/8/02 12:54 pm) Reply
Fianl Request: Urgent
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Regarding fleshnblood's last post under thread "YaAli", which is as follows:
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I have not spoken vulgarity or used explicit language or said anything other than the truth.
Islam is an evil religion, and your own words prove my point.
GOD NEVER CHANGES!!!!
Jesus said to turn the other cheek. That will never change.
Islam teaches otherwise, then it teaches contrary to the WORD OF GOD!
Why should any born-again Christian read the Quran if it teaches things that are against the WORD OF GOD?
You are not my brother. My brothers are only born-again Christians.
Does the truth hurt? Then open your eyes and your heart to the truth of God's Word, and the TRUE ministry of Jesus Christ, the true Messiah. The ONLY MEssiah.
Mohammed was a false prophet.
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My focus is that last line of his post. This is the first and the last time i read anything against my Prophet Mohammed (saw). I dont know how much does anyone love and respect his prophet. But to me that's the foremost obligation to respect my prophet (saw), my religion and other people's religions. Please, Do NOT use offensive language towards Him. This message is for all people here, esp. the forum moderators, so if I don't post later on, u all should know the reason. Another statement should I see that defames Hazrat Mohammed (saw) in any way, I swear to Allah (swt) I am NOT going to reply or post here, for earlier some people said bad about Islam, but I am still posting and trying to debate but anyone says one word against Hazrat Mohammed (saw) and I do not care for what anybody says or questions. You asked about Hazrat Mohammed (saw) proof as a prophet and as his bloodline, that was ok, cuz that was a question asked very politely. No bad words directed to any Prophet, whether u or I believe in him or not.
We all have to respect eachother. Discussions are not done in such a way. If thats how it's supposed to be, then maybe I can't do it. I may bear if u say something against me but not ANY Prophet (saw).
Islam tells us not to use gutter words against rivals for they may say the same thing about your religion and in that case the responsibles are the one who started accusations and offensive words.
All I ask the forum operators is that they should make sure that nobody uses offensive language towards anyone. Also, if anyone mentions other's religions , dont use bad words or defamatory language to question something. The problem is not questioning, problem is language. We have to respect.
We must Respect others to get respect in return.
I hope to get a positive response from the operators.
Thank you,
Asad Ali.
KingJehu
Unregistered User
(9/10/02 9:57 pm) Reply
yaali110
Our Lord teaches us that anyone not confessing Him as LORD is just that a antichrist and anyone that preachers anything different then the gosple of Christ is a false prophet... surely you know all the verses that say just that, so i dont feel i need to type them out... but if you dont know them let me know. Now should we not speak what we believe is the truth? YOUR doctrine says to KILL us... thats a fact, Mohammed killed as well, as you I am sure will admit, all these are contry to our belief, should we @#%$ foot around just to make you feel good about a false religion? YOU know well our doctrine calls anyone not confessing Christ as Lord as a antichrist, you knew this way before you came to this board... i believe perhaps now that the questions about your faith are getting to hard to answer... you are looking for a way out and to save face. I will not censor fleshnblood for his belief that Mohammed was a false prophet no more then I will censor you for believing Christ was... fair is fair... if you feel you cannot answer the questions asked of you on this board then just say so, but don't look to cop out by trying to say you don't want to here certain things our doctrine says... and our doctrine says just that, anyone bringing anything other then the gosple of Christ to anyone... is just that a false prophet... its almost 9/11/02 I hope those that follow your religion dont do what the news says they are plaining to do... we shall see. Then again the quran tells them to do it.
Karaite Registered User
Posts: 4
(9/25/02 10:08 am) Reply
Re: Fianl Request: Urgent
Quote: My focus is that last line of his post. This is the first and the last time i read anything against my Prophet Mohammed (saw).
So, you mean you won't visit any apologetics websites? Any apologetics website, be Islamic or contrary, will contain such conjunctions as "false" with "prophet" and "Mohammad". It is the nature of the arguments, you know.
Quote: I dont know how much does anyone love and respect his prophet. But to me that's the foremost obligation to respect my prophet (saw), my religion and other people's religions. Please, Do NOT use offensive language towards Him.
If you consider this to be offensive language, how come you claim that Jesus was not the Son of God? Did you ever think that by you saying this, you are offending, not only Christian(ity)s, but God as well? Yes, you are! That is the core of our beliefs, and without it, Christianity will not stand.
So, why don't you watch your language, eh?
If you claim that Mohammad was a prophet of God, then you are claiming that Jesus was a false prophet. If you claim that you believe in Jesus, and Mohammad, then you are not believing in Jesus; you are believing in some Mythological Jesus. If you come here to tell us that we should follow Mohammad, then you are calling our leader (Jesus Christ) to be in error, and to be a false prophet.
Quote: We all have to respect eachother. Discussions are not done in such a way. If thats how it's supposed to be, then maybe I can't do it. I may bear if u say something against me but not ANY Prophet (saw).
The argument is precisely that! That you must prove that Muhammad is a prophet of God, because in light of the Scriptures, we can't see this. If you do not know this, then what are you doing in an apologetics site?
yaali110
Unregistered User
(10/1/02 3:45 pm) Reply
myth
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Hi!
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..... how come you claim that Jesus was not the Son of God? Did you ever think that by you saying this, you are offending, not only Christian(ity)s, but God as well? Yes, you are! That is the core of our beliefs, and without it, Christianity will not stand.
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I believe that. But I never said that since christians say Jesus (a.s) is son of God hence they are evil. Did I ever say that? No. I questioned. And never did I address bible and/or christianity with abusive language.
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If you claim that Mohammad was a prophet of God, then you are claiming that Jesus was a false prophet. If you claim that you believe in Jesus, and Mohammad, then you are not believing in Jesus; you are believing in some Mythological Jesus. If you come here to tell us that we should follow Mohammad, then you are calling our leader (Jesus Christ) to be in error, and to be a false prophet.
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This is just what christians will say about non-christians, and vice versa. Muslims will say that If someone believes in Hadrat Isa (a.s) as son of God, they are going against the saying of Hadrat Mohammed (saw), Hadrat Isa (a.s) as well as God.
So, I'll insist that instead of accusing eachother, and without getting excited (hyper) we should discuss these issues. Or otherwise, no use. Two people can keep fighting and yelling at eachotherh if they both lose respect for eachother.
Hope it is helpful. Thank you!
Regards,
Asad Ali.
Karaite Registered User
Posts: 10
(10/4/02 11:32 am) Reply
Re: myth
[quote]I believe that. But I never said that since christians say Jesus (a.s) is son of God hence they are evil. Did I ever say that? No. I questioned. And never did I address bible and/or christianity with abusive language.[/quote]
Okay, do you believe the Qu'ran? If you propose the Qu'ran to be true, then you are proposing what the Qu'ran says...though conflicting theories, the Qu'ran also says that believing Jesus to be the Son of God was blasphemy.
You seem to not be understanding my statements, here. I am not trying to argue anything, but to show you your error, in where you get over excited when people say that Mohammad is a false prophet.
It is precisely this fact that has to be argued, and not something else which has no relationship to the path of truth.
[quote]This is just what christians will say about non-christians, and vice versa. Muslims will say that If someone believes in Hadrat Isa (a.s) as son of God, they are going against the saying of Hadrat Mohammed (saw), Hadrat Isa (a.s) as well as God.
So, I'll insist that instead of accusing eachother, and without getting excited (hyper) we should discuss these issues. Or otherwise, no use. Two people can keep fighting and yelling at eachotherh if they both lose respect for eachother.
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Focus, focus my friend. I am telling you that whatever you propose, is a negative of what we believe. Thus, we have a contradiction in your statements. That is all I am trying to show you.
Blessings!
Milton
Blessings! Milton
I like good conversations, why don't you come on over to my board?
Re: myth
I believe we have lost our resident muslims again. . . it happens to them all, when you start to bring up just what their doctrine says, they can't defend it, so they find an excuse to bow out of the debate. . . in this case. . . it was because we quoted the Quran, thats not playing fair folks! lol
yaali110
Unregistered User
(1/22/03 9:26 pm) Reply
haha !
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No body is running away.
Knock it off ! yalla man
You guys are so pathetic haha
M 'n' M fi raasi'k . ha ha
Hope u can look for the meanings, it's a food for thought for u.
yaali110
Unregistered User
(1/22/03 9:33 pm) Reply
back at ya!
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QUOTE:
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Focus, focus my friend. I am telling you that whatever you propose, is a negative of what we believe. Thus, we have a contradiction in your statements. That is all I am trying to show you.
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