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katjam007 Registered User
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(11/8/03 8:54 am) Reply
Friday's show (11/7)-warning: long post
Another great show! I'm glad Al is finally in Michael's body- now the REAL story can begin. I also like how they did it, nice little special effect there. And the smile on Al's face--excellent. Welcome back indeed, Al Holden.
I'm also loving the Luna and Al scenes, I'd hoped for some of those. I saw the edit of Al watching Luna talking about him on tape, a video tape she'd made to Max before she died (I think). It was right after the Jen fiasco and Al was feeling low, and he watched Luna and it brought a smile to his face. She said some great things about him. So I'm loving the interaction between these two, and Susan and Nathaniel are really making that bond seem real. For as messed up as Al was and how screwy his childhood was being passed around and stuff, I think the reason he was able to change his life around and be so loving with Marcie was the strong bond/love he has with both of his mothers, Luna and Gabrielle. The psychiatrist is in--5 cents please.
Now on to what I don't like about the show, which is Al related in a round about way- does anyone else think this Rex/Jen thing is Al/Jen round two? I didn't see all that stalker stuff with Al, just the edits from when Jen was pregnant, but Rex seems to be stalking Jen too. He's manipulating her, revealing her secrets, lying, seducing her, all in the "name" of love. For a while I was thinking that maybe Rex was playing a game with her, Joey stole her from him, now he was getting his revenge by breaking up her marriage. But then he had that conversation with Roxy--which was great, btw, I love those two together--and he's talking like he really does love her. How? He's not showing it. And more importantly WHY? Why does anyone love this woman? We know why Al loves Marcie--he's explained it to her, he's said it to other people, we can see it in his eyes whenever she's around. But Jen? Is she that good in bed that every guy goes nuts over her? Because that seems to be the only reason they love her, to get her in the sack. Joey seems different, I guess. I don't know why he loves her either, but I haven't paid much attention to them in the past.
It's really frustrating to watch this play out, its boring and old. And not to beat a dead horse of a subject, but its a total waste of John's talent, imo. Pair him with a strong actress...I'm thinking he and Heather Tom would be good. I'm not a huge fan of hers, but then again maybe it was the character she played on Y&R that I didn't like. Or bring somebody new in, someone who can challenge him and play off of his snarkiness and comedic ability. I mean, where are they going to go from here? Unless Rex dumps her right after she leaves Joey, thus giving her the comeuppance she's deserved for so long, what are we going to get? A bunch of bedroom scenes? Him getting her involved in prostitution? I can't see that happening, I don't see Rex as a slimeball, just a bad boy with a lost soul who needs to find what he's missing. And it ain't Jen.
Then there's Jen lecturing Lindsey on not falling for the wrong guy again, and that she doesn't need to be involved with another man right now. Give me a break, five minutes later she's sucking face with Rex. Now maybe that was supposed to come across as ironic, but it didn't play out that way.
Sorry for the long post, just had to get all that out. Back to the good stuff- next week is going to be great! We get a kiss and a slap...love it! I'm ready to watch.
kathy
Al to Luna: I may be dead, but I still have some fight left in me.
Quote:does anyone else think this Rex/Jen thing is Al/Jen round two? I
To this I have to say no. I say no to your question Kathy because Jen wants Rex too. She never wanted Al. She slept with him initially for some comfort, he got sprung and began to manipulate to be with her. She continued to stay out of a sense of responsibility for his accident. He began to stalk out of his obsession, I don't think Rex stalks. How can u stalk some1 always sitting in your face the 2nd your husband turns his back? You can't. So whatever is going on btween Rex and Jen is a mutual sickness. Where it goes, I have no idea and really don't care. Cuz for the most part soaps seemed determined to everything illogical, which is why we will spend the next few months watching these 2 cat around and culminate into nothingness. They are 2 bad@%$es who really have no reason to be bad. Together they will hump and drink each other into obliviion until one cheats on the other.
Quote:Why does anyone love this woman?
Good question. No one has any idea. Not even the writers. Jen is not all bad. She tried to be good to Al. In the end they ended up screwing each other, but she tried in the beginning. She was all desperate over Cris. Why any1 is attracted to Cris other than he looks good I have never understood either. Joey and Jen r 1 of those couples u knew from the beginning they were gonna put together. Whether it worked or not. Y did Joey, supposedly a moral, upstanding, intelligent, caring, well to do man want the Llanview's #2 trolley?? We don't know. They were making out at the ocmmunity center before we could even blink, much less ask.
Rex loves(or thinks he does) because apparently she is the only one in town as nasty as he is. Al became obsessed w/ Jen bcuz of his own lack of self esteem, it could have been any1 that showed him kindness. Still no clues as to why men have to have Jen in particular,other than the fact she puts out faster than the most competent Golden Corral buffet. No Jen is not all bad, but she is shallow and shortsighted. Even her attempts to be good to Al show that. So other than Rex I am baffled to why any1 wants her. She doesn't even have personality. I mean, she doesn't even seem like a fun person to hang out with unless you are a frat boy lookin' to get laid. And Joey and Al seem/ed to be in search of so much more. Y would either of the 2 of them think of her as mating material?? The world may never know. See my previous statement on soap creators/writers.
ON to the good stuff:
Quote:I'm also loving the Luna and Al scenes
Note to soap writers: this is how u get 2 actors who r supposed to have a history but have never worked 2gether 2 pull off a sense of chemistry and history. PUt them in more than 1 scene 2gether and refer 2 said history.
I can't say enuf about the way Al and Luna play off each other. The love was there. He went from a whining, begging 10 yr old to a man desperate in love in 15 seconds flat. Luna played frustrated Mommy, irritated Mommy, cheerleader Mommy, loving Mommy, comforting Mommy, and best friend Mom in the same time.I had no problem believing she raised him and they had a history. NONe. They pulled it off perfectly. I hope they use her all the way up until Marcie tells Al she loves him in Michael's body. It will be great. Even in NM's scene's w/ ME. Plus they r funny!
I love the scenes where Al tells Luna he is it for Marcie and she was it for him. How about Al's smile when he realized he landed in Michael's body?
This storyline is gonna be such a great trip. And we get them at least 3 days next week!! That is what u do when u have Daytime's favorite couple on your show. Pimp them the majority of the week. It is never enuf 4 me, but I'll take it!!
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(11/8/03 4:43 pm) Reply
Born again...
Quote:And the smile on Al's face--excellent. Welcome back indeed, Al Holden.
Wasn't that intense? I replayed that a few times! It was like watching him being born... almost Frankenstein-like... and KB? Wow... that look on her face seeing Michael holding onto life.. not knowing its Al... just Marcie being Marcie, the loving and generous heroine this show hasn't seen the likes of in eons... That moment was melodramatic, yes, but who cares? Its fun, its exciting, it pulls on our heartstrings, and makes us feel ALIVE! There's this song by POD, and it just brought back that song for me "I, I feel so alive!" We watched him die, and in that moment that Marcie greeted him back into the world, she was almost a dual role of lover and mother... weird, but it resonated well.
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(11/8/03 4:47 pm) Reply
Rex and Jen, Al and Jen
Quote:does anyone else think this Rex/Jen thing is Al/Jen round two? I didn't see all that stalker stuff with Al, just the edits from when Jen was pregnant, but Rex seems to be stalking Jen too. He's manipulating her, revealing her secrets, lying, seducing her, all in the "name" of love... And not to beat a dead horse of a subject, but its a total waste of John's talent, imo. Pair him with a strong actress...I'm thinking he and Heather Tom would be good. I'm not a huge fan of hers, but then again maybe it was the character she played on Y&R that I didn't like. Or bring somebody new in, someone who can challenge him and play off of his snarkiness and comedic ability
I wrote a post about this in the archives folder ... "Levoisier is just lucky". There's a difference, a major one... Rex is written as someone that Jen would respond to, whereas Al was written as a lost puppy. I'll bring that post back from archives...
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(11/8/03 4:51 pm) Reply
Repost: Levoisier is just lucky (from archives)
I'm DONE with playing NICEY NICE. I was sick of all the silly wars and came back to my online world with a new attitude... to praise everyone... and never go to places like Mediadomain... well BAUGH! Sitting around here and thinking of sweet Marcal kisses is not gonna cut it when there are points to be made.
Levoisier got LUCKY cast in a role that allowed him to be the bad boy. I got nothing against the guy, and I'm not saying he's a bad actor or anything like that, but he's NOT a memorable wolf of Llanview, no way, no how. I'll just BET Malone is drooling at the thought of the new up and coming wolf in Llanview... but he casted the wrong creep to his vision! Okay, he's got a job and experience in these things, but I'm telling you here and now, that he is WRONG WRONG WRONG!
There are PLENTY of other actors who know how to make a Llanview wolf memorable... look at Trevor St. John's Walker. And I still have to give Roger credit for doing that well too, even though he didn't have the range Nathaniel does.. being able to do both the prince and the creep.
Some, at say, Mediadomain, would say that no one liked Al until he was the prince, but I say this... When did Levoisier's Rex ever give you goosebumps? Its not Nathaniel's fault that his Al was not written in such a way that any live, breathing female fan of this show would think he was anything more than Jen's lap dog when he was written more darker... Thanks to Gary Tomlin and his people... no one had a decent vision of Al, other than to PROP Jen's story. What was the POINT of recasting just to let him twist in the wind? He wasn't the bad boy because, as Jen's lap dog, he had no spine with which to make the females in the audience melt... and it was a JOKE that he was written as having the audacity to try to intimidate anyone when he was written spineless. ONLY because Nathanie has TALENT did I enjoy his BAD BOY, out of context, backing Natalie up to the wall and sending CHILLS down my spine! THEN... THEN...Nathaniel was given a storyline that most actors wouldn't have been able to do ANYTHING with, and TURNED IT INTO memorable daytime television...
Its a testament to his TALENT that he has a huge MARCAL contingent who have his back! Who ELSE could have turned that sappy story into must see OLTL!!!!
Rex is written to not take Jen's garbage, and Jen is in a position to see him as a challenge... but just hit your snooze buttons people.. cuz ANY ACTORS worth a DIME could make that storyline hot.
Now.. imagine Nathaniel having such a character... Okay... I know.. were Marcalers... and you know Nate appreciates his fans, but he's GOT to knwo the REAL ticket was to play a bad boy.. he never got!!
And I've had a hard time figuring how to work with that, but its NOT impossible... That's what writing is about. YOu know.. my fan fiction has been stale because I couldn't write anything about MARCAL that's better than the show's versions.. when I originally set out to write Al and Jen, as a representation of how the characters COULD be worked..
Well, maybe I DO have a vision.. a much more creative one than Levoisier and Malone has about an up and coming wolf... that much I can tell you.
By the way.. let me introduce myself... seems the snark poster from years of onlining... is BACK, and taking no prisoners.
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(11/8/03 4:57 pm) Reply
Kiss and a slap
Quote:next week is going to be great! We get a kiss and a slap...love it! I'm ready to watch
Its all too good to be true... Romance at its very best... we really are getting what we want, aren't we?
I have a post somewhere in the Al Holden folder saying "TRUE LOVE HAS NEVER BEEN DONE SO WELL" or something like that.. and that's the bottom line here. Think about all the plays that have been done to death, but when its done well... hmmm... I guess you don't have to ask why it gets done again. Don't get me wrong.. I'm all for taking risks and trying experimental theatre, etc, but there is a reason why we return to what works. Its sort of like jazz... you take something already done, and improv off it... and turn it into something new, yet familiar...
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(11/8/03 5:02 pm) Reply
Re: Long response
Quote:Why any1 is attracted to Cris other than he looks good I have never understood either
For someone like me who gets ZERO from a hot body, you can imagine how uninteresting that Vega boy has been to me. Yeah, I can honestly HONESTLY say that a hot body does absolutely NOTHING for me. I remember going to talk to others at soapnet about Natalie and Al, and all they could talk about was Natalie and Cris.. OMG... I really never got that AT ALL, and it irritated me to all get out, until the day I fell for Al and Marcie.. and thought... hmmm. worked out well didn't it? I know these two deseving actors ended up better off for all that happened... and look at Archer!! Fans are turned OFF, and Fumero? The guy who felt that he was tired of worrying about his lines? Give the job to someone who CARES! Thank you. Marston will do just fine, oh so fine.
Quote:Note to soap writers: this is how u get 2 actors who r supposed to have a history but have never worked 2gether 2 pull off a sense of chemistry and history. PUt them in more than 1 scene 2gether and refer 2 said history.
Chemistry has been and will always be about professional ability. I will rejoice each day I see our Marston prove the theory that he has chemistry with everybody. The fact is that Marston is the kind of actor that everyone wants or should want.
katjam007 Registered User
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(11/8/03 8:04 pm) Reply
Re: Friday's show (11/7)-warning: long post
Quote:To this I have to say no. I say no to your question Kathy because Jen wants Rex too. She never wanted Al.
Well, my ignorance comes from commenting on stuff I haven't seen, so thanks for setting me straight on that, MsT. And to be honest, I hadn't really paid attention to the fact that she does go to Ultra Violet and she does do things that lead Rex on. This is probably because on the whole, I don't pay much attention to Jen anyway. I don't find her a compelling character as written/portrayed. Although the Lindsay/Jen disfunctional gene these two women share intrigues me, and I wish they'd explore that, maybe by having mother and daughter parallel each other's relationships with David and Rex, respectively. Or even a quadrangle, but that borders on bad taste for me, now that I think about it. Forget I mentioned it.
You're right, MsT, I could spend eons of time and brain power analyzing the superficiality of soap opera stories and still come to the conclusion you draw- it will all end up illogical anyway. Its just a soap, after all!
Quote:There's this song by POD, and it just brought back that song for me "I, I feel so alive!"
Love love LOVE POD! That song totally rocks, Char, and it fits with NM's reincarnation, so to speak. And KB played it so perfectly, just as if she were dealing with a stranger. I think she's going to have a tough job playing opposite NM as a new character, since she's spent months being the other half of Marcal. I'm sure near the end there the affection and touches between she and NM just came so naturally. Now as an actress she has to imagine him not only looking like a different person, but being a different person, yet sensing there's something familiar and magnetic about him. What a challenge! I can't help but think they both have to be excited about this upcoming story, because it will really stretch them as actors. Also, the chemistry and trust factor they have with each other will really make for some wonderful scenes. We're going to have a great next couple of months!
kathy
Al to Luna: I may be dead, but I still have some fight left in me.
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(11/8/03 5:12 pm) Reply
I am humbled by you ladies.
You all are so much fun to talk to (and the rest of you too, not just Kathy and Mystify, when you all have some time to throw in some comments)... when you get a few people together who really love a character, and love to analyze it, wow... you really get some interesting discussion going!!!!!! You guys rock! I just want to take the time to say I really enjoy this... Its nice to do something other than Nathaniel.
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(11/8/03 5:19 pm) Reply
Caring about Jen (or not)
Quote:This is probably because on the whole, I don't pay much attention to Jen anyway.
If it wasn't for Al, I wouldn't have noticed her either, or Natalie for that matter.
Edited by: Ladyeevil at: 11/8/03 5:20 pm
katjam007 Registered User
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(11/8/03 8:22 pm) Reply
Re: Kiss and a slap
Quote:Think about all the plays that have been done to death, but when its done well... hmmm... I guess you don't have to ask why it gets done again
There's a saying in the world of writing that there are only 20 basic plots. I'm willing to bet there are fewer than that. So a writer takes a basic premise, turns it on its ear and makes it his/her own. Same with actors, there are specific character archetypes, and sometimes writers will write layers into those types (Al) and sometimes they don't (Rex). Although Al's layers came late, I think. If the layers aren't there in the writing then its up to the actor to add his own layers and his own coloring of passions. I still think JPL does this within the constraints of his character as written. But we've already discussed him to death before.
It's my hope that with the kiss and the slap we'll see a TON of conflict between Marcie and MicheAL in the coming months. And I mean TONS. Its a given they're going to get together by Valentine's Day- unless NM quits the show they're not letting him go. So there's no fear in him leaving, at least not soon. And I do want to see affection and love and all that stuff, but I want them to fight for it. I want it to be worth it, to them and to us. The most satisfying rewards are the ones that are hard won, and in this case it better be an uphill battle for Al and Marcie. Lets see the layers, the angst, the internal struggle, the frustration, and the guilt. Marcie resisting MichAl, but she's inexplicably drawn to him, and feels guilty because Al is barely cold in the grave. Al's frustration over being unable to tell Marcie who he really is, when all he wants to do is be with her, hold her, and yes make love to her for longer than 2.1 seconds. The conflict potential here is enormous, and as I always say, I'm all about the conflict.
kathy
Al to Luna: I may be dead, but I still have some fight left in me.
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(11/8/03 8:27 pm) Reply
Rappaport women...
Quote:Although the Lindsay/Jen disfunctional gene these two women share intrigues me, and I wish they'd explore that, maybe by having mother and daughter parallel each other's relationships with David and Rex, respectively.
I know you perished the thought, and I'm giving you due credit for that, because the only thing about Rappaports that I ever loved is what could have been with Will, hence my fan fiction choices, and a certain Catherine Hickland that rocks. The fact is that the man I worship, Michael Malone, already wrote this type of parallel with the Cramers. I actually hoped that we'd find out that CH's Lindsay turned out to be a Cramer, because Lindsay is nothing more than a shadow of what a Cramer is. And lets face it.. who needs JM? Sad for me because I came to care about Jen, because Al did, but that't the extent of it for me.
Char
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(11/8/03 5:37 pm) Reply
POD's I feel so alive, KB's new challenge, etc
Quote:Love love LOVE POD!
You are probably a Creed fan too? Such spirituality with such intensity... Sometimes a fictional moment, or a song, can take you to a place, even hours meditating in a Zen garden couldn't...
I can only imagine that part of KB and NM's challenge is to feel life that fully... because they have to know what it is that resonates about Marcal... which makes me respect all the more what NM was saying in his interview. I trust these two to challenge themselves to find something inside them to use this OPPORTUNITY to really shine, because YES!!! They have been given something amazing to work with, something they have to really dig deep to bring to life! They have to know what has been given to them! I think the key is to bring a sense of "alive" to these characters... and then relax, and just do what they do best... react off each other. Its my own theory about acting.. you do what it takes to feel it, and then trust yourself to react accordingly.
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(11/8/03 8:46 pm) Reply
Re: Kiss and a slap
Quote:Its a given they're going to get together by Valentine's Day- unless NM quits the show they're not letting him go. So there's no fear in him leaving, at least not soon
I'm going to put this theory out with the trust that NM fans have the kind of faith that defies such negativity... typical Datalounge type of garbage ensues, so please take with grain of salt as I am. I've heard so much garbage about NM, and I've learned to tune it out.
I've heard through the grapevine that even NM doesn't know he's history as of February, that he's only around to appease the Marcalers and the story is being written to help fans let go of NM.
Well, LOOK at this man's performances!!! Its like he says, and the same reason I support this man... the bottom line TALKS and BS walks! I say this man hasn't even shown the extent of what he can do, and he's up for the challenge! Oh yes, this man is ON TOP OF HIS GAME! He's not going anywhere. He's lucky enough to be born so freaking beautiful that women will not be able to let him go, but not because of his beauty alone, but because he speaks to women, on a level that TPTB need to listen and LEARN from.
Char
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(11/8/03 9:07 pm) Reply
Re: Kiss and a slap
Quote:I've heard through the grapevine that even NM doesn't know he's history as of February, that he's only around to appease the Marcalers and the story is being written to help fans let go of NM.
That is such a load of crap, I can smell it from here. I cannot believe that tptb would be so MONUMENTALLY STUPID as to let NM go twice in what, 8 months? Fan outrage got him his job back, are we really going to be appeased by having him leave again in February? That doesn't even make sense. And writing another romantic story, having the fans fall in love with the characters/actors all over again...that's going to help us let go of him? Hello? As if!! If anything he will win new fans (he already has) and cement his current fan base.
Now, if he chooses to leave, that's a different story altogether. You can't blame an actor for leaving a show on his own accord, that's his personal choice and business.
But saying that he will be dismissed again in February, that's so dumb. Even dumber than firing him in the first place. At least at that time they could have pleaded ignorance (which they did) but now there would be no reason to let him go. He means money for the show and the network, he's getting tons of press, he's part of the hottest couple on daytime right now, he's paired with one of the hottest actresses on daytime not to mention a Broadway star, and he has a nanny waking him up in the morning. There's no reason to fire the guy at all.
Dumb, stupid, moronic...and stuff like this multiplies on the internet. Its a great tool, but as with most anything you have to sift through the dirt to find the gold.
kathy
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(11/8/03 9:10 pm) Reply
Re: POD's I feel so alive, KB's new challenge, etc
Quote:You are probably a Creed fan too?
Can't stand Creed, way too much cheese. Sorry to all you Creed fans out there, but that's jmo. Now POD...there songs are amazing. They rock, they experiment, they have awesome lyrics...they're all that Creed isn't.
kathy
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(11/9/03 11:25 am) Reply
Re: POD's I feel so alive, KB's new challenge, etc
That's alright Kathy! I just assumed it was that spiritual aspect of POD that had you on the hook, and Creed is into that. I have such a broad taste in music... if it does what its supposed to do, I like it. If its fun but mindless, or whether its deep and too serious, or if it speaks on one level but fails on another.. I'll like it depending on what I feel like listening to. I think the only thing I can't forgive is something lacking a hook or a beat, or something...
Char
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(11/9/03 11:28 am) Reply
Re: Kiss and a slap
Quote:Dumb, stupid, moronic...and stuff like this multiplies on the internet. Its a great tool, but as with most anything you have to sift through the dirt to find the gold.
Exactly, this rumor about February is the one I will use to point out how MORONIC it is to even bother with the internet rumors, because, IMO, its the most ridiculous one yet!
Char
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(11/9/03 11:37 am) Reply
More Al/Rex parallel discussion
Quote:I don't see Rex as a slimeball, just a bad boy with a lost soul who needs to find what he's missing. And it ain't Jen.
It goes back to the idea that Levoisier has been handed the wolf role, which is why I reposted that, so you can see what I'm referring to... he's like Todd needing Blair, but JM is no KDP. You see, with Jen, Rex feels that he isn't alone in the universe. He needs to feel connected like we all do, and the one person who seems to relate to him is Jen.. by liking her, he likes himself. And what is the point of having it all, and not being able to dazzle someone, someone who "gets it". That is similar to Al in the sense that Al wanted someone who "gets" him. At first, he thought it was Jen, but she turned out to be someone he didn't recognize, and the girl he thought was Jen, was Marcie. I liked Natalie because it was a different sort of attraction.. a more... "I'm not sure I like this side of myself, but this girl relates to that bad in me" Rex, on the other hand, wants the girl to relate to that bad side, because he embraces it in himself.
Char
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(11/9/03 1:59 pm) Reply
Re: More Al/Rex parallel discussion
Quote:Rex, on the other hand, wants the girl to relate to that bad side, because he embraces it in himself.
Well said, short and sweet. That must be the attraction to Jen, then, that she embraces her bad side too, when she's not fighting it to be the "perfect" wife for Joe or whatever.
Whew, so glad we figured that out!
Here's to hoping that they come up with something better for JPL--maybe graft him into the McBain/Al s/l perhaps. I just like to see more of him other than sniffing after Jen or standing behind the counter at UV.
kathy
Al to Luna: I may be dead, but I still have some fight left in me.
Tasty posts!!!
I think POD and Creed rock. I have been to see Creed live and they reach an extremely diverse crowd of people. POD's So Alive is one of the songs I put on to hype myself up. Creed can be a little cheesy, but they turned it out playing live. So it might be there videos that suck the most.
Back to soap talk:
So no one understands the writer's desire to make Jen the end all to be all for men on the show. Hmmm...I am wondering if it all goes back to looks for them. Because I have heard how Nat used to be a harda@# back when she 1st came and I have not seen anything that makes me think she is worthy of praise performance wise. The majority of OLTL's 20something crowd leaves a lot to be desired. Not just storyline wise. But they have cast a lot of mediocre players here. When I watch Joey/Jen/River/Kelly/Adrianna/Jess and sometimes Rex, I see passionless performance. They seem relatively out of touch with the material. Now I don't want to crap on any of the actors bcuz maybe they just can't get inspired by the material they r being asked to play. Except Joey,I just feel the need to give him a free pass on bad acting bcuz BMH started on Passions. Which has some of the worst actors ever to step foot on a daytime set. I mean more than 1/2 of their casts just sucks and the only reason I can see they r on is bcuz they r traditional beauty types. ie Bony with long hair.
Antonio seems to have caught the bug going around the OLTL soundstage. bcuz i have no idea what happened to this character. He is just ridiculously drawn,if i was Kamar I would be pissed for the character assasination. He completely devolved. When I watched years ago when he was w/ Andy I liked him. He is ruined. Well I could go on with a dozen other ways that OLTL has offended my senses, but I would end up with finger cramps...
Back to my obsession: MicheAl and Marcie. I feel like this has all the potential to be a great storyline. NM is gonna rip it up for all he is worth. I expect that eventually Al Holden will be wiped out unless it serves a storyline purpose. But more than likely he is gonna be Michael. I am not so worried about NM having something good to do as I just am really worried about them letting KB lag behind with Marcie's development. And that bothers me. KB is too talented to play a less than fully layered character. I don't want Marcie to stay exactly the same. I want to see sexy Marcie and a Marcie who will stand up for herself whether Al is there or not. Also caring for herself not just others. NM and KB r the most diverse set of young actors on this show it would be a shame to let either of them go fully undeveloped.
I agree JM, for whatever reason, doesn't act on the level that JPL does. Or really anyone else except for BMH. i don't know what her deal is, but she is very-mmmm, 1 note maybe? I just never feel for her. I don't feel bad for her, sorry for her, hate her, just disgusted really. U know what would be interesting for Jen? To find out that she was sexually abused and that is why she always screws up with sexual relations. I don't knwo if JM can carry it, but it is an idea. There has got to be a reason to the way she acts other than the rush.
Rex could be a real bad@#$, not just a manipulative bastard. I mean they could make him truly nasty if they wanted too. But 4 some reason they r softening him a bit. And I say that even though he told Joe of Jen's miscarriage. I wonder why they squashed that gay storyline he was supposed to be in? JPL, imo, seems to burst with potential that has yet to be tapped on OLTL.
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I am humbled by you ladies.
You guys rock! I just want to take the time to say I really enjoy this... Its nice to do something other than 
Nathaniel.
Here's to hoping that they come up with something better for JPL--maybe graft him into the McBain/Al s/l perhaps. I just like to see more of him other than sniffing after Jen or standing behind the counter at UV. 
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