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LadyEevil, I saw your pics...
You were standing very close to NM. How does he smell??? I am dying to know.
Ladyeevil Keeper of the Wing at St. Anne's for the Nuts for Nathaniel
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(10/13/03 9:38 pm) Reply
Re: LadyEevil, I saw your pics...
By the way, I saw him again at the Luncheon.. I look different eh?
Smell??? Just give me a heart attack why don't you... When I hugged him, I just wanted to stay there, and not stop, he smelled and felt soooooooo goood.... and I could barely breathe... He was all man, baby!
Re: LadyEevil, I saw your pics...
Char, u r a writer. More description please! I do love the smell of a man. It can be...intoxicating and heady. Sheesh, I miss men...
Did he do like a half hug or full on? I can't stand weak huggers.Could u feel muscle?
Yeah, u do look way dif from the other set of pics.
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(10/15/03 7:54 pm) Reply
Re: LadyEevil, I saw your pics...
The hug...
I tried to let him be quick about it because I didn't want to impose, but he is such a wonderful guy, he actually pulled me closer and proceeded to completely wrap himself around me for what seemed like an eternity, with a strong masculine grip. There was a moment that I actually stopped and thought... omg.. this is a moment I want to remember always, and I wanted to drink it in. It felt strange to me, to get such a hug from Nathaniel, but it was an amazing feelign to BE hugged that way. It had alot to do with why I want to be like him... I am driven to make people feel that good, and he is my inspiration. Acting is much better for me now that I have that experience with which I can interact better.
At first, I was so scared, I almost pulled back, and I think that's when Nathaniel ppulled me closer.... But I didn't want to offend him or freak him out. And there was this other side of me that didn't want to release him, but tell him how much it means to me, which would also be freaky. I was really sad when I came to him.. I like to think that he knew I was sad and was trying to cheer me up, but I don't know if it was his intention.. or he just is so generous with himself that he makes a point of being that way with his fans whenever they ask for a hug. Either way, I don't think I ever hugged anyone that closely much in my life. YOu see, My dad came home one night when I was a teen, after he'd gone to some counselling for a few weeks, and hugged me very strangely, saying that he was sorry that he didn't know how to express his love for his kids very well, so needless to say, I didn't grow up with alot of touch. Nathaniel touched that wound in my heart, and the day before, he stared point on at my facial scar and smiled at me like I was the most beautiful woman in the world, finding me amusing. I wasn't confused about it. I saw into the soul of this amazing person and I just wanted to be like him. I suppose that's why he came to mean so much to me.
Char
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(10/15/03 11:56 pm) Reply
Re: LadyEevil, I saw your pics...
Now, Char, why wouldn't he want to pull you close to him? 1) You're a devoted fan 2)You're pretty 3)You don't have cooties, as my 8 yr old would say and 4)I don't think he has issues of personal space...in addition to all that touchy feely stuff with Marcal, as Al he doesn't hesitate to get in someone's face when angry. Don't sell yourself short, woman, and I for one am green with envy.
kathy
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(10/15/03 9:15 pm) Reply
Re: LadyEevil, I saw your pics...
OOOOHhhh... Let's make plans for all of us to go to the Luncheon next year and get one of those great hugs! Well, I think he'd go to the luncheon again... I wonder if someday he won't be accessible for things like that, but I'll enjoy this priviledge it as long as its available.
At the past luncheon... I couldn't even crack any of the jokes I planned to make him laugh.. cuz I didn't know what was appropriate considering he'd been let go from the show. And I didn't want to start talking about me so I didn't try to explain. I didn't ask for another hug but I wanted to, just cuz I am so fond of him, and probably always will be in that way that inspirations are thought of. I sometimes worry that he wouldn't understand. I hope he sees it the way you do.
Sometimes I feel like Bev and/or Rootie in this script called "Graceland" (about Elvis worship)... if you ever heard of it. The line "This is nutty talk" makes me laugh so freakin hard.
Re: LadyEevil, I saw your pics...
I would have passed out. He is just too hot. I come from a very huggy touchy family. We have made people physically sick bcuz we are so loving. I am sorry that you didn't have that all along Char. I hope u have someone in your life that does it know.
I am glad he gives strong hugs. It says a lot about a person. I am so completely for meeting up next year at a fan luncheon or Super Soap or whatever those things are. We should start planning it as soon as one comes up. I would love to meet you guys. I feel like we are good friends already!
Char, I sooo get why u aren't quite sure how to act around him. On 1 hand you are a fan and want to let him know it and that you appreciate him. On the other hand you don't want to come off as a stalker/loser w/ nothing to do but obsess over his body of work. You want him to see you as a fan who is intelligent and normal and quite capable of being his friend.
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(10/16/03 12:52 pm) Reply
Re: LadyEevil, I saw your pics...
I'm already planning to go to NYC in August for the luncheon, so it would be way cool to meet ya'll there. Hopefully plans won't fall through, but you know how that goes. And even if NM isn't there (lets hope, pray, beg that he goes) it will still be fun.
There's a fine tightrope between devoted fan and over the edge fan. And I imagine for such high profile people its always good for them to be on their guard, because there are a bunch of nutjobs out there (none on this forum, of course ). We all want to come across as intelligent and appreciative of NM's work, and not like we're total wackos. I post a lot on the boards because I'm on the computer all the time with my job, and its a nice break for me to dash off a post and read the great replies. I enjoy the sense of community here and at The Diner and at KB.com. Its fun, and in a way its safe, because I don't take too kindly to flamers and ignorant posters. If I sound snotty, fine, but that's how it is with me. The Marcal fanbase are the coolest people around, hands down, and I love hanging with them.
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(10/16/03 7:51 pm) Reply
Re: LadyEevil, I saw your pics...
Quote:On the other hand you don't want to come off as a stalker/loser w/ nothing to do but obsess over his body of work. You want him to see you as a fan who is intelligent and normal and quite capable of being his friend.
Well I'm in a pickle. I feel that I DID go overboard, though Jen and Brittany assure me otherwise. I dont know if I can ever be seen by him as normal, if he knows about my "overboardness"... Don't get me wrong... I have no expectations of the guy and never did, that's why I call it "overboardness" and not "obsession" I know what obsession is, and this aint it, but I could see how NM might think so.
The inspiration by him set me on a path to make my life richer... but... first I had to get my head out of the clouds over meeting him... then he got attacked by some posters here on a personal level, and then got fired... I was defending him left and right, as if I was defending myself. When someone opens your mind, they become part of your voice, if you follow me. So when he got attacked, my own identity was called into question. I got so defensive, and it snowballed. Then the campaign to save his job was a big issue for so long. The announcement that his repreive was true finally came recently, but I still have my concerns in common with the Marcalers, so I've still been here, right up to celebrating him coming back for good on October 14th.. and here we are.
What's sad (and ironic) is that the only way I can prove that I am a normal fan, is to walk away. I considered it, but knowing myself the way I do, and knowing that I'm not obsessed, I don't see any point in that. I have nothing to prove to him or myself. What I do know is this... I am going to FINALLY enjoy relaxing and just enjoying his performances.. and live MY life, instead of riding his rollercoaster of a life, since things finally calmed down. It would be one thing if I was a part of his life, but I'm just a fan.
And I'm not going to freak everytime something goes wrong in the storyline. I'll call the comment line and send in postcards to continue support but I promised myself that if some other upheaval comes up in his life, he's on his own, which I'm sure is fine with him. I think he'd understand. I am a fan, but I have my dignity. I made some friends here, and this is my online home, and I'm a board mommy.. so of course I'm here to talk to my friends, but MSTO5... this thread is my official closure from this ride I've been on... I wash my hands, and will let fate decide my fan relationship with Nathaniel. That's why I, on the party thread, posted my pics of that fateful trip to Anaheim.. It was my way of letting it go. But I'm glad I got to tell the story about his hug. It made it more real for me, and I have no intention of forgetting how it all began, and why it happened. He IS a fabulous person.
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(10/16/03 8:06 pm) Reply
Re: LadyEevil, I saw your pics...
Quote:I would have passed out. He is just too hot.
And THIS is why I want another hug. I want to ENJOY it, as in "OMG.. Nathaniel is so dreamy", like you describe. That hug I got in Anaheim was terrifying to me at the time. I hope that if he knows about my going overboard, he doesn't regret the hug he gave me, and fear being as intimate with fans, because my going overboard seems more like it was just part of the process of healing for me.
I'm glad you appreciate that about your family... touchy feely.. Well, let me tell you... I really have become more at ease with people, and its really nice, because I can tell that people are so much nicer and feel more comfortable around me because I let them in. I mean its so obvious, but I didn't get it. I was so into being touch so no one would take advantage of me. Sometimes I worry that someone, especially guys, might have the wrong impression, but I just continue to be as natural as I can be, and that fear goes away. I'm really excited about life for the first time in my life.. becuase I'm enjoying being present, in the moment, and part of the world.
Re: LadyEevil, I saw your pics...
Char, I don't think you went overboard. I think that Nathaniel probably really appreciates the way you have been inspired by him and for whatever reason. I have not heard/read of a fan relating a bad experience with this man. In fact, he seems to go out of his way to connect with fans at Soap events and his interviews. I don't think he is embarrassed at all about how you feel about him or why. He has made it very clear that he does what he does to touch people. If you have altered your life for the better because of his influence then I feel as though that counts for him. I personally, love his outlook and his attitude. I mean JDP made his bitterness rather clear when he was fired. Nathaniel didn't he said it was about the fans and he was sorry the network couldn't see that. And then that boy went and made vacation plans. So the man is hot, smart, has good old-fashioned common sense, and a positive outlook. That says a lot to me.
Guys are horndogs 99% of the time. Sometime they will take your affection the wrong way. I don't necessarily let that influence how i act. I just set them straight and continue on. I am sure Nathaniel doesn't think you went overboard. Maybe he knew you came that day and stood in line for him bcuz he already touched you. and maybe he did sense you were feeling low that day, so maybe that hug was just for you. or maybe he knows that every single one of his fans count and at that moment he could do a little something to let you know it. Why do you feel the need to let that go?
Anyway, u r a stronger woman than I am. Cuz' the second he pulled me close I would have been all over him like a hot soapy rag . Now I probably would have been considered crazy and he probably wouldn't have went near another fan!
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(10/17/03 4:44 pm) Reply
Re: LadyEevil, I saw your pics...
You have me... Yeah, can you us now? Nathaniel trying to get us off of him? grabbing at his pantlegs as we are dragged along? OMG... this image cracks me up
I wrote something else after this, but I edited it out, and hope no one read it. It was verbose, and unecessary, so I'll summarize...
I'm not leaving behind being his fan... the one thing I know is that there is nothing that would make me turn on him or judge him. I know enough about him to know I respect him. I'm just leaving behind trying to figure out why HE, as opposed to someone else, famous or otherwise, would be my inspiration... cuz its had me on the hook all these months, me posting my brains out trying to analyze NM and his Al... what it is about HIM and/or his Al, wondering if I have things in common with him, wondering what on earth caused this profound change in me after meeting NM. Its not enough to say he's hot and talented because so are so many others.... though I'll credit him with being more talented and hot than any other anways... . My theory is if I let that need to figure it out go, voila... I'm free, not from any obsession OF the guy, but an obsession with why him, and going overboard about him in some lame attempt to figure it out. That make sense?
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(10/20/03 8:36 pm) Reply
Re: LadyEevil, I saw your pics...
Quote:The Marcal fanbase are the coolest people around, hands down, and I love hanging with them.
Yup... you have to give some credit to these strong leaders.. Tessarae and Ladyday... because they really have a knack for making "being a fan" a dignified act... they keep fans aware of the concept of... keeping your priorities straight. When you add Kathy and Nathaniel to the mix, and their fan love.. it created an amazing effect. So much soap history being made, and not just getting NM his repreive.. but LOOK at HIS fans.. These aren't your run of the mill damaged human beings who have nothing better to do than cry to Roger Howarth to rape them... Were talking... imaginative, funny... determined, strong women, who have enough self respect and strength to say that how they feel is as real as a man and his sports... and I believe they are representative of the soap watchers at large. I know, I met these people in Anaheim... they weren't the onliners.. but they had it in common... they all wanted the same thing... they knew they wanted to live in the world of Marcie and Al, where life has meaning... Kudos to KB and NM for bringing life to this story.
Char
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(10/20/03 9:27 pm) Reply
Re: LadyEevil, I saw your pics...
Quote:These aren't your run of the mill damaged human beings who have nothing better to do than cry to Roger Howarth to rape them...
Ouch! And YUCK! (where's the barf emoticon when you need it?)But I totally get what you're saying. Glad I missed that whole thing...not that RH is without his appeal, but give me NM anyday. And I mean ANY day!
kathy
Marcie: Gosh, I love it when fellas do big, manly stuff.
Al: Yeah, well I never shy away from an opportunity to look studly.
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(10/21/03 5:51 am) Reply
ITA about Blair
I'm fairly new to the show, but I've learned some history about the characters, and to me Blair is being written as a stupid twit. I mean we basically have a parallel s/l coming up with Marcal- Marcie has to see past the outer shell to see her soulmate Al on the inside. Eventually Al will come through. Now, if Todd is Blair's true love, why can't she see that? One can say that Todd is taking great pains to hide himself from her, but I don't buy it. Her daughter can tell its him, even her mother can. But she's clueless. Not only that, but she lets Starr manipulate her too, and I'm not real thrilled with that. Although I really, really enjoy Kristen Alderson as an actress- she's wonderful- Starr could use a trip out to the woodshed, imo. Not politically correct of me, but whatever. I stand by my words.
I hope Blair gets some of her brains back soon. Kassie's a pleasure to watch and I hate seeing her playing dumbed down like that. I'm also thinking a trip to St Anne's is in order when she does realize she's be duped by Todd- again. I really feel sorry for her, and I can't imagine the writers doing that on purpose. I don't know what they're thinking...
kathy
Marcie: Gosh, I love it when fellas do big, manly stuff.
Al: Yeah, well I never shy away from an opportunity to look studly.
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(10/21/03 7:25 pm) Reply
I have more to say about Al's appeal, as opposed to Todds..
so I'm posting in the Al folder since this discussion went from fan encounter to character discussion