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ezNighEve

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Posted: 1/1/07 20:01    
POP-UPS - I am an ezSupporter or board is GOLD why?
There are several possible sources for seeing ads on an ezboard that are NOT actually coming FROM ezboard. If you see pop ups but not banner ads, the pop ups are definitely NOT coming from the ezboard. Ezboard pop ups are launched from the ezboard banner ads.

1. You may have other windows open to other sites that are launching the pop ups.
2. You may be getting a time-delayed pop-up from a website you left some time earlier.
3. You visit the ezboard FIRST THING when you sign on to the internet, and your isp or a program on your computer is set to give you a pop-up when you first open your browser.
4. You may be getting pop-ups, banner ads or strange links from a program you have inadvertently installed on your computer.(see below)
5. If you see ads on a gold board or you are an ezSupporter and see ads on any board, that board admin may have added their own ads. Many admins will buy gold for their board and then put up their own ads, including pop ups.

6. Or the admin may have added a third party script and did not realize it would cause pop ups. Recently scripts from sitegadgets have been causing alot of pop ups on boards where they are used.
Another one is if you are using a cjb.net redirect for
your board, they will give you lots of popups.
4-4-02 add realtracker, a free counter that causes Sprinks pop ups.
5-18-04 UPDATE
bravenet recently started serving pop ups with their free trackers and counters.

courtesy of kerryborn28 :
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There are three counters I know of that do not send popups onto sites. There is sitemeter, statcounter (statcounter is invisible so uses less bandwidth) and netstat. They only have banner ads fed by google on the page where the board owner accesses stats to they are not invasive of board users.

added 5-27-02 courtesy of Leuquarte: If you put a board in a frameset for a website, and that website has pop ups, the board will have pop ups too, coming from the website, not from ezboard.


7. If the popup asks you for a username and password, then it likely that one of your members is linking to images that are on a protected server. Take note of the domain name, and search the source of the page on which it happened until you find which member is doing it.

SCUMWARE
It is a growing trend and a reflection of the market bust that many of the "handy" free downloads on the internet these days such as peer-to-peer file sharing programs such as kazaa and well known programs such as Gator are seeking ways to raise new revenue. The way to do this is to sell advertising. They don't however, put a banner ad on your desktop or anything so obvious. No, what they do is try and present you advertising in more subtle ways in hopes that you won't notice, object, or even try to convince you they are doing a "service" to you by replacing ads you aren't interested in with ads that are "targeted" to your taste. Several things that may happen:

1) You will get pop-ups, even on pages that normally shouldn't give you pop-ups. This usually (but not always) happens within the first 10 or so minutes when the program "senses" you are browsing the internet. That is why it often seems to come out of the ezboards only, because many people check their boards for posts first thing when signing on the web.

2) You will get normal banner ads on a website replaced (covered) perfectly by a banner ad of the program's chosing.

3) You will see strange yellow or green underlines of certain "keywords" on ANY page on the internet you are viewing, these keywords when clicked will take you to an advertisers website.

4) You will find a normal website link you click will be "highjacked" and instead of going where you wanted to go, you will be given a menu to chose to go to the advertiser's site or continue to the original link.

5) You get redirected to third party websites. update 3-31-02
This is a recent one being reported. There is a site called lop.com that installs a program that whenever you get an error page, for example, one that should be an ezboard error page, it redirects you to one of their advertisers. There is an uninstall link for lop.com here:

There are other similar scumware progs out there I am sure that will also redirect you to their advertisers. The users who reported this lop.com did NOT know they had it on their computers until they started doing some poking around in their registry, so don't automatically assume you do not have any scumware on your computer.
6.You will have your favorites changed, or a new search bar added to your browser, or a 'toolbar' that is full of links to advertiser's sites. Xupiter toolbar is one that does this. How to get rid of Xupiter.


Toptext is a downloadable program made by http://www.ezula.com that works with your browser (kind of takes it over, really) and turns certain words on ALL websites you view into links to an advertisers website. For example, Sony music might pay to have the word 'music' be a link to their site, so if you have Toptext installed on your computer, any time you saw the word music, it would be a link to Sony's website. (Sony was just an example)

If you are seeing strange, yellow underlined links to commercial sites within ezboard posts, most likely it is NOT an ezboard ad. There have been several complaints lately by users who thought we were putting ads within posts (and I expect there will be more). We are NOT doing this. If you have downloaded any free programs lately, like Kazaa or iMesh (file sharing programs), you may have installed Toptext without knowing it. Look in your C:/ program files to see if you have toptext, and you can probably uninstall it there.

There may be other programs besides Toptext that work the same way. If you have installed one of these without wanting to, you should complain to the company that bundled the Toptext program with their own program without telling you. But the main thing is, these are NOT ezboard ads, they are coming from your own computer.

added 2/25/05
If you have the google toolbar installed, there is an optional feature called "autolink". Turning this feature on will created links in webpages on certain keywords. For example if you post a book's ISBN number, that will turn into a link to Amazon.com. Only you will see the link or other users who have the google toolbar installed. These are not technically ads, because amazon.com didn't pay google to do this, but if you happen to be another company that sells books it would not be desirable to have links taking readers to amazon.com. You should be aware of this feature and know that you can turn it off and still use the google toolbar.
Read this article for more details

Further reading:

www.freegraphics.com/zz-scumware/
www.ezula.com/news/media_coverage1.asp
forums.zdnet.com/group/

www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,49960,00.html
news.com.com/2100-1023-257592.html
www.wired.com/news/infostructure/0,1377,57467,00.html
www.doxdesk.com/parasite/Xupiter.html

You may find this interesting, Google.com, who does NOT use pop-ups at this time, is also responding to complaints about pop-ups at their site, which are not coming from them: www.google.com/help/nopopupads.html


Other programs that will cause ads, either links, banners or pop-ups:
Gator
TOPText
WebHancer
mediasrv.exe
AdAvailable
IconPrizes
EasyLink
Tsadbot
Google Toolbar "autolink" feature

3-29-02 update: add 'onflow' to list of scumware progs that spawn pop ups.
4-4-02 add http://www.vx2.cc/ to the list
5-14-02 add 'Network Essentials' to the list of scumware progs which launch pop ups.
2-1-03 add Xupiter to list of scumware
2/25/05 add Google Toolbar "autolink" feature which places links in webpages (not technically an ad but can be perceived as one)


file sharing programs that bundle ad programs with the download:
kazaa
iMesh
Morpheus
audio galaxy
grokster

If you are getting pop ups on a Gold Community or with an ezSupporter account, it may be coming from your own computer! It may be a program you have installed without realizing it.

HOW TO GET RID OF SCUMWARE
Check out this program: (courtesy of Leuquarte)
www.lavasoft.nu/ , and grab AdAware. this checks for spyware components that may be running as a process or saved on your computer, that could cause random pop-ups. This removes the bad stuff like Comet Cursor, Gator, Aureate, TopText, etc., etc.
another link to download adaware:
download.cnet.com/downloads/0-10106-108-63806.html
Ezboard does not have any connection with adaware and does not vouch for the safety or efficacy of the program, but many users have used it and reccomend it.

another good scumware remover is spybot.
user cwohardy advises:
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Never use either (adaware or spybot) without going into the settings first and telling it to ask you first before deletion and save a copy of the deletions. Then run it, and copy and paste the log file at the respective help forums. They will tell you what is safe to delete.That way you dont lose anything you need. Most programs that you download for free KAZAA/Grokster etc are loaded with scumware and usually wont work after using this because they get rid of the scum which is hardcoded into the program. Both ADaware and SSD allow you to restore items you deleted if you want stuff back.


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ezNighEve

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Posted: 1/1/07 21:02    
Re: POP-UPS - I am an ezSupporter or board is GOLD why?
There is another kind of popups you may be experiencing. These do not look like regular popups, they do not have colors and pictures and links on them like a regular internet pop up. These look like windows dialog boxes, they are plain gray boxes with just black text. These are coming right from Windows XP or Win200 or some other versions of windows. They are not coming from the internet. There are some sites that sell programs that claim to stop them. (regular pop up blockers don't work) I canot vouch for the sites, but it is something you may want to look into.
www.fightmessenger.com/ this one costs 20$
www.messagecrusher.com/ this one costs 10$
It can be difficult to get rid of these since they are coming from your operating system, not from a third party program you downloaded like Kazaa or whatever.

Ok I found out how to disable this type of messaging. (The grey dialog box type pop ups.) You don't have to buy anything. Thanks to bbarden and Notty for the following instructions:
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You basically need to disable the messenger service. (This is not the same as msn messenger.) The description for this in Windows 2000 is as follows: "Sends and receives messages transmitted by administrators or by the Alerter service."

It only really serves a purpose if you're on a network (particularly at work). If you get those Messenger popups at work, raise it with your own helpdesk - don't just go ahead and disable the service.

To disable it:

In Windows NT - go to Control Panel and Services
In Windows 2000 - go to Control Panel, Administrative Tools and then Services
Not sure about XP - (see below)

You simply need to disable the service. No more of those alert boxes claiming that they can stop all kinds of spam! Just do it yourself

To disable in XP:

Click on the Start button and open the control panel•
Open the Performance and Maintenance control panel and go to Administrative Tools.•
double-click on COMPONENT Services•
pick services local, then scroll to Messenger•
Double-click Messenger and click Stop to stop the service•

You also need to right click on it's startup type (automatic or manual) select properties, change the startup type (on drop down) to Disable. be sure to click on apply changes.


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ezNighEve

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Posts: 1478
Posted: 1/1/07 20:03    
Re: POP-UPS - I am an ezSupporter or board is GOLD why?
You may run into a pop-up that has a domain at the top and asks you for your login information.

When you get that type of pop up it is generally caused by someone's image host. Someone has an image that is hosted on a site that requires that you be logged into an account to view the image. Generally you can simply hit the cancel button and go on. Don't try to enter your name and password, just in case. Sometimes this is because of a change at the host, such as site maintenance (temporary) or a policy change (permanent).

The way to find the image(s) causing the pop-up is to scroll down the page where you get the pop-up and look for a missing image. You'll see a box with a red X, unless it is a personal icon and you have the limit set at 10x10. In this case you will see a small empty box after the user name. Once you locate a missing image, put your cursor over that area and right click and select properties to see if the image url matches the domain on the pop-up.

Once you find the image causing the problem, you can ask the user to remove the personal icon image (account preferences)/personal photo (edit profile) or signature (account preferences). This will prevent this from continuing to happen. But it won't fix the existing posts.

To fix existing posts.
If the problem is an icon, you can turn off icons for the affected forums (forum security settings). The only other option is to delete all posts with the missing icon. If the post with the problem is the first post in a topic, that will delete the entire topic.

If the problem is with a personal photo you can edit the photo out of the existing post. Simply edit the post and uncheck the Use Personal Photo box.

If the problem is with an image in a signature, you can edit out the signature in the same way that you edit a personal photo, this time unchecking Use Custom Signature.

Edited by: ezGoalieAunt at: 2/13/07 21:01

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ezGoalieAunt

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Posted: 4/3/07 21:42    
Re: POP-UPS - I am an ezSupporter or board is GOLD why?
If you have a stat counter/site meter and suddenly start getting pop ups it may be the counter/site meter that is the culprit.

From Plum Tuckered

I'd try taking the stat counter code off yer board & see if that makes a difference. I saw lotsa hesitation fer "http://m1.webstats.motigo.com". in their FAQs under "Advertising on Motigo Webstats?" it says -
Quote:
In order to finance the maintenance, hosting, new developments and to continue providing you with the world’s best FREE web analytics tool in the market, Motigo Webstats will accept advertising sponsorships ... These advertising sponsorships can appear as a pop-up or pop-under advertisement or slide-in flash format....

webstats.motigo.com/service/#misc10

then in their TOS it says -
Quote:
With the installation of Webstats4U on the site it is accepted that WMS has the right to place advertisements on the site in any format or through any channel, including but not limited to e-mail, layer ads, pops, banners and other usual formats

www.webstats.motigo.com/terms/

kinda looks like that outfit took over nedstat.com.

that may not be yer problem but it's what I'd wanna try first.



And via PM about spyware and board slowness


It could be this. Some ezboards use the javascript version of sitemeter. Since about 20 march sitemeter has been creating an invisible script to specificclick.net and sending specificclick cookies onto sites that have the java version of the counter. This has made those sites very slow to load. The blog world is alive with reports of this and another counter service has reported they were first approached by specificmedia but they refused the offer. Another problem is that users on ez may think that the specificclick spyware is coming from ezboard. If a site reports slow or downtime and they have the java sitemeter, it is a good idea to replace it with the HTML version (no cookies) or else another stats analyzer. Statcounter is one that has publically stated it will never send cookies or spyware onto sites hosting it. On sitemeter, not just the free version but the upgraded pay service version has got tied in with specificclick.

I check a page with that counter and then check my temp files and see I was viewing the page through an script at specificclick. That is MORE than a cookie.


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