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Man I'm not really thinking about that stuff at all right now. I gotta see what it looks like after being cut then worry about foley sounds, then ambiant sounds, then music.
Right now, all I plan for, are moments of silence actually. I never think of even music cues when writing.
I get a dozen people asking to work on the soundtrack and it's like.....Dude we're not shooting for another month.
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Yeah or the kid from fullsail (a private film school in Orlando that costs $30,000+ a years to attend. Anyone can get in and you have to have rich parents. I've worked with three Full Sail graduates and I know more about filmmmaking than the three of them combines from working on other peoples movies.
This kid calls me and asys he has tp ask his proffesors for time off. I offered him gaffer and camera assistant becuae he knows how to operate the equiptment.
Then the kid emails me and asks me how much hell get paid because he's be missing a lot of school. Shit!!! He should be paying me!!! I offered him $75 a day differered if he worked good the first two weeks.
Kids would learn more shooting two weekends with us than he would in 6 months at that school!!!!
Interview in Jacksonville Times Union (finally a good one)
Horror in Gainesville: I wrote last week about Jacksonville-based independent filmmaker Josh Townsend's The Gainesville Ripper, which will be about Danny Rolling's serial killings of five college students in 1990.
The casting call filled most of the roles he needed for the film, and he expects to film on weekends in Jacksonville and Gainesville beginning in late April. Gainesville-based actor Zachary Memos will play Rolling, said Townsend, who was a student at Gainesville High School during the killings. Townsend, 32, will draw on those memories for his film.
"My biggest memory is fear; the whole town was just scared," he said. "Danny Rolling is a bad person; he's pretty much as evil as you can get. This is a horror movie, this isn't a drama, a docudrama. Gainesville was scared - and this is a horror movie."
Townsend said he'll try to stay true to what's known about Rolling's life but will change the names and identifying characteristics of the victims.
Recent news reports in Gainesville included concerns about the movie from those affected, including the mother of one of the victims.
Those concerns are valid - why dredge up such terrible memories, why make a "horror movie" about it?
Townsend answers: "Every night you watch TV, and what are they doing? Rehashing people's murders. And what about Monster, that Charlize Theron movie (about Florida serial killer Aileen Wuornos)? She was portrayed sympathetically. I don't like that - imagine her victims and think about their wives. And that's an Oscar-winning movie. I don't think I'm out of balance doing this - it happened, this really happened."
And, he says, there will be no shred of sympathy in his film for Rolling: "I do not like Danny Rolling, and it sucks to go back and read his autobiography and other research to try to find the truth about all that."..>..>
The budget will be less than $100,000, says Townsend, whose short film, Loyalty, played in 2005 at the Fantasia festival in Montreal. You can find more about the project at www.gainesvilleripper.com. www.jacksonville.com/tu-o...1930.shtml
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You don't learn much about filmmaking in school. Experience comes on a real set where you didn't get everything for free.
All school can give you is a diploma which leads you to a good paying job !
Seems like you're working film snobbish ass-head students Josh, good luck !
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Actually, if you're willing to put in the work, you can learn a lot in film school, by working on everybodies shoots. A friend of mine graduated having been on almost 100 shoots. Just like with the non film school route, it's still dependant on your ambition.
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True......but leave the film school vs non filmschool shit for another topic. I didn't go to filmschool and I know as much if not more than anyone I every met who went to filmschool so I'm not impresssed.
Everyone I met in Filmschool fucked around a lot. From what I've heard, It's easy to pick out the people with talent. A friend told he went to school with this guy who everyone knew was going somewhere. He's working as an editor in Hollywood or something. Having a job in Hollywood is 'making it' to everyone I've met who went to films chool.
The school I'm talking about is called Full Sail in Orlando Florida. It's a private school who will accept anyone and costs between 30-40 thousand, you heard me right $30-40,000 dollars a year to attend plus you have to find your own accomodations. I've met at least 10 of there graduates. 6 had industry related job, one shot wedding videos and the rest worked for the local news station as shooter or editors (paid $10.50 and hour. My buddy Josh Skersky). The ones I haven't met might have jobs in California or New york
Here's a link to the place. www.fullsail.com/
It's where people who don't have the grades to get into real film schools go. Oh and they have to have rich Daddy's and Mommys.
My dad's got the money but would never send me there because he hates the fact that I make movies....but that's a different story all together,
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No more talking about filmschool. THIS IS FILMSCHOOL
Right now I"m over with the script. Danny gets Gainesville at page 70 (way to late) and the first ginesville murder doesn't happen till page 90.
I SHOOT A PAGE A MINUTES WHEN I WRITE WITH FINAL DRAFT. Everyones different and somepeople shoot more less but I'm usually a page a minute after I cut the shit out of it.
That mean At 110 final pages I've got a 2 hour movie easy. Not that having a two hour movie is bad, but I'm on a budget and fighting time (worker's comp payments) So now I have to keep the Gainesville murders short and the third act or cut back on some scenes of Danny growing up and becoming evil in Louisiana before coming to Gainesville.
I should just shoot a two and a half hour movie then whittle it down to tight 2 hours, but I really need to cut down scenes not pages from the first 50 pages of the script.
I'm asking investors and department heads what they think. If it were a 90 minute movie instead of a two hour movie that 25% less money and time needed to be spent. That's alot considering I'm putting up most of the budget (hell all of it right now, papers haven't been signed)
It's a hell of a plunge, this feature thing, but come hell, cops or high water were shooting April 30th
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I think your core audience is going to want the murders to start earlier, no more than 40ish minutes into the movie. Not to say you have to tailor to your core audience, but it's not a bad idea. I haven't read the script so I can't really advise you on what to cut very effectively, but if I were watching a movie such as this, I would expect the crux of the action to be set up within 30 minutes. So my suggestion is get him to Gainesville earlier. But like I said, I don't really know the script so this may be a bad idea.
I think you would want to cinch and tighten up the first act when Danny's growing up and his interactions with his parents. Sometime flashbacks work well when you want to compress a series of events into a few minutes on screen. Especially when it's events that are often repeated with the same outcome. $0.02
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Yeah yeah you guys are both right. It's 'art' part that killing me, plus I'd be losing some good pages.
I'm fucking around with the Gainesville murders. I'm doing stuff nobody has done in a movie....ever. Hope it works.
FILM SCHOOL KID CONTINUED
I emailed him and asked him to tell me if he was game. It's been 4-5 since I emailed him originally. He responds:
Quote:Sorry, I would really like to, but I can't. School is unwilling to let me go for the time needed, and if I just leave I can't come back.
So I write back:
Thanks for taking the time to reply finally.
I figured as much. I'll never understand why people pay SOOOO MUCH money to go to the school instead of actually making a movie and eventually getting paid for it. Not you in specific because I don't know you, I'm basing those comments on folks I've met who attended and even more I've met that graduated and are now getting $9.50 an hour editing news. I know 2 of 'em.
When you go to get a job in the real world your $30,000 Full Sail graduation certificate will mean less to your employers than a credit as a crew leader in a high profile horror film.
Your the 5th Guy from Full Sail to do this when they found out they got paid defferered. I've got every non Sag actor in Florida (the best out ther) willing to work for free in the movie and drive from Miami.
Maybe you'll be one of the one that busts out and makes it big after leaving Full Sail. Beyond what I just said, something you may not beleive not but you will in a year. Your other mistake was not emailing me back right away to tell me you can't do it. I'm not offfeneded or pissed or anything because your Full Sail I expected it.
But learn from it. Be proffesional and respecful of people making movies if your not gonna do it with out cash every weekend say so right away. The next producer/director might actually wait on hiring some else to heat bback from you.
Your in school to learn and if this email sounded harsh, I'm sorry. I'm trying to help you learn.
You can call me if you hav eany questions..
Here's my standard email to people wanting a position on crew:
"If your hard working and can make almost every weekend we shoot, you got a job. We'll be shooting on weekends starting April 29th for 3-4 months. Most of it will be shot here in Jacksonville. But we will do some shooting in Gville in a month or two. If you can handle that. Well try ya out for two weekends. If you show up and work hard and get along with every one, we'll sign a contract with ya paying you 75$ a day deferred payment you get when we sell the movie."
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5 days isn't professional, so yeah that sorta sucks. I'm still interested in working on the movie by the way, although I may only be able to make it down once or twice (it's a 250 dollar ticket and I need to pay for my apartment next year) but I really want to get on the set just to be on a professional set. Anyways, you said to e-mail you in a couple weeks, and I will but I just thought I'd mention it.
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Oh I'm keeping it up ARC 24-7. It's nice to be a real filmmaker for a living (thanks to all you construction workers contributing to worker comp).
I'll tell you this much, if I didn't live in America or we had socialized medicine, I'd be minus two finger and not making my eature film debut. Most imprtantly I'm making it with the same freedom Raimi, Romero, Jackson and Wes Craven had when they made their directorial debuts. So it's all up to me and my crew to make a movie that WAY better than anything out there.
It's all in my hands and that's way it should be.
Severed - I emailed you back. Keep that stuff outa this blog OK? It's cool though.
OMFG I fucking wish. Wouldn't that be cool if I actually make this movie and it turns out to be good and becomes a hit in South Korea? If so I'm so moving there to make movies. You gotta come with me Arc.
FIRST KILL
Here's a present for you guys for being so helpful. Read it by thurday cause it's gone after then. I'm really breaking the rules by putting this up.It's a link to a few script pages before the first murder I'm rather proud of and I'd like you guys to ell what you think so I don't walk around all big headed thinking I'm the next QT.
This is 9pages of script. Starts when Danny Rolling sees my Exorcist 3 movie(D.J.'s title FOR WE ARE MANY cool name). Danny picks his first two Gainesville murder victims and in his reality, he IS the movie.
This is one of the more stylist parts so it might read funny out of place but let me have it with the comments.