Quote 21: still the kingship would righly come to you
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And when Maedhros healed he went to Fingolfin and asked for forgiveness and renounced to the High Kinship of the Noldor. Fingolfin accepted (bah) and thus was healed too the feud between the Noldor.
"If there lay no grievance between us, lord, still the kingship would rightly come to you, the eldest here of the house of Finwë, and not the least wise." But to this his brothers did not all in their hearts agree. Therefore even as Mandos foretold the House of Fëanor were called the Dispossessed, because the over-lordship passed from it, the elder, to the house of Fingolfin, both in Elendë and in Beleriand, and because also of the loss of the Silmarils.
Quote 22: "It was a dark road. I have come as I could"
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when Hurin finally was free from his prison, and failed to enter Gondolin he later came to the place where Nienor died. There he met his wife, Morwen. "You come at last," she said. "I have waited too long."
"It was a dark road. I have come as I could," he answered.
"But you are too late," said Morwen. "They are lost."
"I know it," he said. "But you are not."
But Morwen said: "Almost. I am spent, I shall go with the sun..."
And she dies soon after.
Quote 23: so is it plain that hate would have us share teh heirlooms of our father
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Quote 23: so is it plain that hate would have us share teh heirlooms of our father
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These are Maedhros and Maglor after to have seized the Silmarils from Eönwe's tent; it is (supposedly) their last meeting before to be parted.
Each of them took to himself a Silmaril, for they said: "Since one is lost to us, and but two remain, and we two alone of our brothers, so is it plain that fate would have us share the heirlooms of our father."
But the jewel burned the hand of Maedhros in pain unbearable; and he perceived that it was as Eönwë had said, and that his right thereto had become void, and that the oath was vain. And being in anguish and despair he cast himself into a gaping chasm filled with fire, and so ended; and the Silmaril that he bore was taken into the bosom of the Earth.
And it is told of Maglor that he could not endure the pain with which the Silmaril tormented him; and he cast it at last into the Sea, and thereafter he wandered ever upon the shores, singing in pain and regret beside the waves.
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During Túrin's stay in Nargothrond Finduilas, who so far did not know his true idendity), fell in love with him. Finduilas was loved by Gwindor, though, and he then told him Túrin's name and about the curse that Morgoth had put on his family. When Finduilas told Túrin about that he got angry, telling Gwindor: "In love I hold you for rescue and safe-keeping. But now you have done ill to me, friend, to betray my right name, and call my doom upon me, from which I would lie hid."
But Gwindor answered: "The doom lies in yourself, not in your name."
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Quote 25: What would you here, unhappy mortal
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This is Thingol speaking to Beren. Daeron knew of the love Lúthien kept for Beren and betrayed them to the King and, guess what, Thingol took badly that a mortal had dared to fell for his daughter.
"Let Beren speak!" said Thingol. "What would you here, unhappy mortal, and for what cause have you left your own land to enter this, which is forbidden to such as you? Can you show reason why my power should not be laid on you in heavy punishment for you insolence and folly?"
Quote 26: And remember that the true hope of the Noldor lieth in the West
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when Gondolin was finally finished and fully built, and Turgon was about to move there, Ulmo, told him: "Now thou shalt go at last to Gondolin, Turgon; and I will maintain my power in the Vale of Sirion, and in all the waters therein, so that none shall mark thy going, nor shall any find there the hidden entrance against thy will. Longest of all the realms of the Eldalie shall Gondolin stand against Melkor. But love not too well the work by thy hands and the devices of thy heart; and remember that the true hope of the Noldor lieth in the West and cometh from the Sea."
And indeed, Gondolin lay hidden for a very long time, but in the end fell also.
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Quote 27: What of your quest, and of your vow?
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Thingol's words to Beren once he came back from Angband. Thingol demanded of him to retrieve a Silmaril if he wanted to wed Lúthien, and Beren said: 'And when we meet again my hand shall hold a Silmaril from the Iron Crown'. When he returned to Doriath, he spoke thus to Thingol:
But Beren knelt before him, and said: 'I return according to my word. I am come now to claim my own.'
And Thingol answered: 'What of your quest, and of your vow?'
But Beren said: 'It is fulfilled. Even now a Silmaril is in my hand.'
Then Thingol said: 'Show it to me!'
And Beren put forth his left hand, slowly opening its fingers; but it was empty. Then he held up his right arm; and from that hour he named himself Camlost, the Empty-handed.
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After the incident of Fëanor drawing his sword and threatening Fingolfin he was in the end banned from Tirion for breaking the peace, even though Fingolfin would have spoken for him (which Fëanor, proud as ever refused).
Then there was this grand feast to be held, and Manwë commanded him to come - which he only did because it was a command.
Nevertheless he met Fingilfin before the throne of Manwë, and was reconciled, in word; and Findgolfin set at naught the unsheathing of the sword. For Fingolfin held forth his hand, saying: "As I promised, I do now. I release thee, and remember no grievance."
Then Fëanor took his hand in silence; but Fingolfin said: "Half-brother in blood, full brother in heart will I be. Thou shalt lead and I will follow. May no new grief divide us."
"I hear thee," said Fëanor. "So be it."
Shortly after Morgoth and Ungoliant attack, killing the trees and stealing the Silmarils, and that will leed to big and terrible things.
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(The Akallabêth! Long ago I wondered to post from there!)
Quote 29: he shall make you stronger than they
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Sauron was brought captive to Númenor, but he managed well enough to earn the King's trust with lies, convincing him to worship Melkor.
Then behind locked doors Sauron spoke to the King, and he lied, saying: 'It is he whose name is not now spoken; for the Valar have deceived you concerning him, putting forward the name of Eru, a phantom devised in the folly of their hearts, seeking to enchain Men in servitude to themselves. For they are the oracle of this Eru, which speaks only what they will. But he that is their master shall yet prevail, and he will deliver you from this phantom; and his name is Melkor, Lord of All, Giver of Freedom, and he shall make you stronger than they.'
He convinced him too to attack Valinor, and thus was forged the fall of Númenor.
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Trying to find out about the whereabouts of Barahir and his men, Sauron captured Gorlim, who in the end had his resistance broken, and promised to tell him if he would be reunited with Eiliel his wife and set free. However, Eiliel was already dead at the time.
Then Sauron smiled, saying: "That is a small price for so great a treachery. So shall it surely be. Say on!"
Now Gorlim would have drawn back, but daunted by the eyes of Sauron he told at last all that he would know. Then Sauron laughed; and he mocked Gorlim, and revealed to him that he had only seen a phantom devised by wizardry to entrap him; for Eilinel was dead. "Nonetheless I will grant thy prayer," said Sauron; "and thou shalt go to Eilinel, and be set free of my service." Then he put him cruelly to death.
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Morgoth took ove Nargothrond and Glaurung was there. When Túrin went to challenge him, the dragon cast a spell upon him, so that he could not move, and tortured his mind.
Then suddenly Glaurung withdrew his glance, and waited; and Túrin stirred slowly, as one waking from a hideous dream. Then coming to himself he sprang upon the dragon with a cry. But Glaurung laughed, saying: 'If thou wilt be slain, I will slay thee gladly. But small help will that be to Morwen and Nienor. No heed didst thou give to the cries of the Elf-woman. Wilt thou deny also the bond of thy blood?'
But Túrin drawing back his sword stabbed at the dragon's eyes; and Glaurung coiling back swiftly towered above him, and said: 'Nay! At least thou art valiant; beyond all whom I have met And they lie who say that we of our part do not honour the valour of foes. See now! I offer thee freedom. Go to thy kin, if thou canst. Get thee gone! And if Elf or Man be left to make tale of these days, then surely in scorn they will name thee, if thou spurnest this gift.'
Quote 32: But that peril I will take on myself alone
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Eärendil, when his ship finally arrived at the shores of Aman, told his companions to stay aboard the ship while he planned to take his pleas to the Valar concerning the stuggle of elves and men. "Here none but myself shall set foot, lest you fall under the wrath of the Valar. But that peril I will take on myself alone, for the sake of the Two Kindreds."
But Elwig answered: "Then would our paths be sundered for ever; but all thy perils I will take on myself also."
And Eärendil with his wife stayed, as the only mortal ever permitted into the undying lands.
Quote 33 The vengeance of the house of Hador will find you yet
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Quote 33 The vengeance of the house of Hador will find you yet
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Mîm betrayed Túrin and his men (not exactly, but I'm not going to argue with myself) and the orcs ambushed and killed most of them, and captured Túrin. But Beleg wasn't dead...
Then with hatred long-stored Mîm stepped up to Beleg, and drew forth the sword Anglachel that lay beneath the body of one that had fallen beside him; but Beleg stumbling up seized back the sword and thrust it at the Dwarf, and Mîm in terror fled wailing from the hill-top. And Beleg cried after him: 'The vengeance of the house of Hador will find you yet!'
Now Beleg was sorely wounded, but he was mighty among the Elves of Middle-earth, and he was moreover a master of healing. Therefore he did not die, and slowly his strength returned; and he sought in vain among the dead for Túrin, to bury him. But he found him not; and then he knew that Húrin's son was yet alive, and taken to Angband.
Quote 34: Have we not become mighty among the people of Arda?
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After a while the people of Númenor grew discontent about the ban that prevented them from sailing West. And some there were who said: "Why should we not go even to Aman, and taste there, were it but for a day, the bliss of the Powers? Have we not become mighty among the people of Arda?"
And fueled by Sauron that in the end lead to Númenor's downfall (said in a very short version).
Quote 35: you may by no means pass through the realm of King Thingol
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Quote 35: you may by no means pass through the realm of King Thingol
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When Aredhel left Gondolin, she didn't travel to the north to visit Fingon and Fingolfin but decided to ride to Himlad where Celegorm and Curufin lived, but the wardens of Doriath granted her no pass (tsk).
But the march-wardens denied them; for Thingol would suffer none of the Noldor to pass the Girdle, save his kinsfolk of the house of Finarfin, and least of all those that were friends of the sons of Fëanor. Therefore the march-wardens said to Aredhel: 'To the land of Celegorm for which you seek, Lady, you may by no means pass through the realm of King Thingol; you must ride beyond the Girdle of Melian, to the south or to the north. The speediest way is by the paths that lead east from the Brithiach through Dimbar and along the north-march of this kingdom, until you pass the Bridge of Esgalduin and the Fords of Aros, and come to the lands that lie behind the Hill of Himring. There dwell, as we believe, Celegorm and Curufin, and it may be that you will find them; but the road is perilous.'
Quote 36: you must make haste if you would find them
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When the Noldor finally unite against Morgoth and set to assault Angband Fingon's people are tricked into attacking prematurely by a nasty taunt. Heralds go to the camps of the Noldor, and bring a prisoner. Then they cried: "We have many more such at home, but you must make haste if you would find them: for we shall deal with them all when we return even so." And they hewed off Gelmir's hands and feet, and his head last, within sight of the Elves.
Gelmir's brother witnesses this and attacks the heralds and others follow. So the well thought-out plan about uniting with Maedhros and then attacking goes wrong.
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